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T O P I C R E V I E Wstone1and Saturn, pluto?mirage29Stone!! Oh my! That's a HUMONGOUS request! One of the ways for you to approach this, would be for you to delve into Mythological stories behind those planets. In the mythologies, find the characters that you think fit. Look to see if there's an asteroid named for that. Fit it into your own chart.Do you think it validates the Planet Placement in your chart? athenegoddessNeptune - PoseidonSaturn - KarmaPluto - Luciferstone1I got quite interested in asteroid lately, mostly because I heard a theory that once human is conscious of the existence of certain asteroid, then it starts to work. DO you believe that? I find it intriguing haha. quote:Originally posted by mirage29:Stone!! Oh my! That's a HUMONGOUS request! One of the ways for you to approach this, would be for you to delve into Mythological stories behind those planets. In the mythologies, find the characters that you think fit. Look to see if there's an asteroid named for that. Fit it into your own chart.Do you think it validates the Planet Placement in your chart? stone1 quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Neptune - PoseidonSaturn - KarmaPluto - LuciferThank you!I heard Poseidon is more like a positive side of Neptune, wasn't sure about that. Pluto - Lucifer are interesting match!MoonMystic quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Neptune - PoseidonSaturn - KarmaPluto - Lucifer So true, especially of Saturn. MoonMystic @Stone1, you could explore the fates.nNot certain if they might identify with the bigger powers. Arachne 407 is a spider type asteroid and might be Plutonian?stone1that's a good one arachne - my honey's moon conjunct his arachne and plutoIs "fate" an asteroid? quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: @Stone1, you could explore the fates.nNot certain if they might identify with the bigger powers. Arachne 407 is a spider type asteroid and might be Plutonian?MoonMysticStone1, Here's a bit on The three fates~ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai Klotho 97 Spinner Lachesis 120 Alloter Atropos 273 Cutter These might not fit, they are the sisters in charge of Destiny, but you may see something seems comparative for you.stone1WOW, guess what i found:My lunar nodes conjunct my lover's MoiraHis moira conjunct my lachesis His klotho conjunct (is sandwiched by) my sun/juno/lachesis and NessusHis vertex conjunct my atroposthat sounds scary quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic:Stone1, Here's a bit on The three fates~ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai Klotho 97 Spinner Lachesis 120 Alloter Atropos 273 Cutter These might not fit, they are the sisters in charge of Destiny, but you may see something seems comparative for you.MoonMysticWow, I just wrote a response and *poof*Stone1, I wouldn't put too much into thatbut you haven't any Atropos, she's the one I think might be worst. Have you thought about Kaali 4227? She's a bit like Pluto/Saturn in combination. Maybe she'll help your study?stone1stone1His Kaali conjunct my jupiterMy Kaali loosely conjunct my destinn, conjunct his PholusHis atropo doesn't conjunct my stuff (I need to check more asteroid)So you are saying his chart is bad, his vertex conjunct my atropo meaning he will die because of me?MoonMystic quote:Originally posted by stone1:His Kaali conjunct my jupiterMy Kaali loosely conjunct my destinn, conjunct his PholusHis atropo doesn't conjunct my stuff (I need to check more asteroid)So you are saying his chart is bad, his vertex conjunct my atropo meaning he will die because of me? Nope. Not saying anything like that. I honestly think it takes a lot of study and tbh as far a finality, I don't see it or look for it. Dark energies can bring difficult times and endings but I'll share an instance in my life where a relationship brought death. My former bf, who wasn't good to me, cost me a very good job. I took another job because he made me decide to change my shift. Despite warnings that the new place would eat me alive. These ithers who advised me were right. My MC was visibly a death punch. Back to your chart. Don't look at this as an actual death. Examine all you can, with points, signs, houses and possibly use midpoint with transits to better see how you both coordinate as a one because you as a couple are one. stone1Thank you for your words - we have a lot of differences and now working on it. I am quite scorpian in love so I hope we won't end badly, because I feel our being together is very fated.Speaking about your experience - do you have atropo synastry in your charts that you think caused the bad job? quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: Nope. Not saying anything like that. I honestly think it takes a lot of study and tbh as far a finality, I don't see it or look for it. Dark energies can bring difficult times and endings but I'll share an instance in my life where a relationship brought death. My former bf, who wasn't good to me, cost me a very good job. I took another job because he made me decide to change my shift. Despite warnings that the new place would eat me alive. These ithers who advised me were right. My MC was visibly a death punch. Back to your chart. Don't look at this as an actual death. Examine all you can, with points, signs, houses and possibly use midpoint with transits to better see how you both coordinate as a [b] one because you as a couple are one. [/B]MoonMystic Stone1, you're so very welcome. I'll try to dig the info out regarding that job loss. I was so proud of that one too, the solid one I quit to please someone else who merely was inserted to manipulated me Hindsight is 20/ 20. My life really derailed too. Let me work on getting those aspects. Do you want to see them with or w/o my then mate in the sauce, so to speak?stone1sure with your mate quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: Stone1, you're so very welcome. I'll try to dig the info out regarding that job loss. I was so proud of that one too, the solid one I quit to please someone else who merely was inserted to manipulated me Hindsight is 20/ 20. My life really derailed too. Let me work on getting those aspects. Do you want to see them with or w/o my then mate in the sauce, so to speak?MoonMystic Stone1 I'll get the data with him in it in a bit. Ok .. this is my progression from then ~MC was 0°58'58" Scorpio 6th was (twins, my boss) Gemini7th (the other - romantic) was CancerThere was an 8th house with Fanale 3478 at that time. Fanale prog it was square with the natal Saturn. Natal Saturn opposed the Prog MC.(There might be a few natal/transits to add here too)My natal vertex was square the prog Venus, sextile the prog Pluto. Finally it was square my prog MC. Prog Apophis opposed natal MC too.(Sure wish I knew a good astrologer then!)In prog declination my 8th house was 20° parallel these in my natal:Aesculapia 'resurrection' 20° 7'Blarney 'persuasion' 20°15'Varros 'tomb' 20°21......[b] because you are curious of the dynamics with him/I and the fated endings of my then chart. ..I took our midpoint here and applied the 'then' transits'. In our combined 7th house we hadVertex cnj MoiraAtropos trine NN8th Fanale sextile Klotho ,semisexile Moira, tight semisexile to vertex, square Sun & MoonAtropos was transit between 5/6th houses.Combined MC Sag, 6th Leo our professional sides of life burnt up like a bad plantation. He was ok despite it all.Composite (blended) /transitVertex squared Lachesis, a sister of Fates see below too. Destinn/Klotho trine Destinn/Moira square Morata/Apophis square Klotho/Lachesis opposition Moira/Saturn trineMoira/ Lachesis squareAtropos/ Apophis squareFanale/ Uranus & Morata square stone1Moonmystic, thanks for the effort writing it down. There are a lot of new info for me, first thing comes to my mind - is it really useful to apply transit asteroid (in face, i never heard of the two asteroids you mentioned) aspect into the picture? I never thought of this idea, and there are so many asteroids! On the other hand, maybe it should only be interpreted/applied when in conjunction and opposition?I never use vertex axis aspects either unless it is in conjunction and opposition.Is 6th leo with 10th sag a bad combination?my lover has sag in 6th and aries for 10th...Atropos sq Aphophis sounds scary! quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: Stone1 I'll get the data with him in it in a bit. Ok .. this is my progression from then ~MC was 0°58'58" Scorpio 6th was (twins, my boss) Gemini7th (the other - romantic) was CancerThere was an 8th house with Fanale 3478 at that time. Fanale prog it was square with the natal Saturn. Natal Saturn opposed the Prog MC.(There might be a few natal/transits to add here too)My natal vertex was square the prog Venus, sextile the prog Pluto. Finally it was square my prog MC. Prog Apophis opposed natal MC too.(Sure wish I knew a good astrologer then!)In prog declination my 8th house was 20° parallel these in my natal:Aesculapia 'resurrection' 20° 7'Blarney 'persuasion' 20°15'Varros 'tomb' 20°21......[b] because you are curious of the dynamics with him/I and the fated endings of my then chart. ..I took our midpoint here and applied the 'then' transits'. In our combined 7th house we hadVertex cnj MoiraAtropos trine NN8th Fanale sextile Klotho ,semisexile Moira, tight semisexile to vertex, square Sun & MoonAtropos was transit between 5/6th houses.Combined MC Sag, 6th Leo our professional sides of life burnt up like a bad plantation. He was ok despite it all.Composite (blended) /transitVertex squared Lachesis, a sister of Fates see below too. Destinn/Klotho trine Destinn/Moira square Morata/Apophis square Klotho/Lachesis opposition Moira/Saturn trineMoira/ Lachesis squareAtropos/ Apophis squareFanale/ Uranus & Morata square
One of the ways for you to approach this, would be for you to delve into Mythological stories behind those planets.
In the mythologies, find the characters that you think fit. Look to see if there's an asteroid named for that.
Fit it into your own chart.Do you think it validates the Planet Placement in your chart?
quote:Originally posted by mirage29:Stone!! Oh my! That's a HUMONGOUS request! One of the ways for you to approach this, would be for you to delve into Mythological stories behind those planets. In the mythologies, find the characters that you think fit. Look to see if there's an asteroid named for that. Fit it into your own chart.Do you think it validates the Planet Placement in your chart?
quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Neptune - PoseidonSaturn - KarmaPluto - Lucifer
Thank you!I heard Poseidon is more like a positive side of Neptune, wasn't sure about that. Pluto - Lucifer are interesting match!
So true, especially of Saturn.
quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: @Stone1, you could explore the fates.nNot certain if they might identify with the bigger powers. Arachne 407 is a spider type asteroid and might be Plutonian?
These might not fit, they are the sisters in charge of Destiny, but you may see something seems comparative for you.
My lunar nodes conjunct my lover's MoiraHis moira conjunct my lachesis His klotho conjunct (is sandwiched by) my sun/juno/lachesis and NessusHis vertex conjunct my atropos
that sounds scary
quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic:Stone1, Here's a bit on The three fates~ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai Klotho 97 Spinner Lachesis 120 Alloter Atropos 273 Cutter These might not fit, they are the sisters in charge of Destiny, but you may see something seems comparative for you.
Stone1, I wouldn't put too much into thatbut you haven't any Atropos, she's the one I think might be worst. Have you thought about Kaali 4227? She's a bit like Pluto/Saturn in combination. Maybe she'll help your study?
So you are saying his chart is bad, his vertex conjunct my atropo meaning he will die because of me?
quote:Originally posted by stone1:His Kaali conjunct my jupiterMy Kaali loosely conjunct my destinn, conjunct his PholusHis atropo doesn't conjunct my stuff (I need to check more asteroid)So you are saying his chart is bad, his vertex conjunct my atropo meaning he will die because of me?
Nope. Not saying anything like that. I honestly think it takes a lot of study and tbh as far a finality, I don't see it or look for it. Dark energies can bring difficult times and endings but I'll share an instance in my life where a relationship brought death. My former bf, who wasn't good to me, cost me a very good job. I took another job because he made me decide to change my shift. Despite warnings that the new place would eat me alive. These ithers who advised me were right. My MC was visibly a death punch. Back to your chart. Don't look at this as an actual death. Examine all you can, with points, signs, houses and possibly use midpoint with transits to better see how you both coordinate as a one because you as a couple are one.
quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: Nope. Not saying anything like that. I honestly think it takes a lot of study and tbh as far a finality, I don't see it or look for it. Dark energies can bring difficult times and endings but I'll share an instance in my life where a relationship brought death. My former bf, who wasn't good to me, cost me a very good job. I took another job because he made me decide to change my shift. Despite warnings that the new place would eat me alive. These ithers who advised me were right. My MC was visibly a death punch. Back to your chart. Don't look at this as an actual death. Examine all you can, with points, signs, houses and possibly use midpoint with transits to better see how you both coordinate as a [b] one because you as a couple are one. [/B]
I'll try to dig the info out regarding that job loss. I was so proud of that one too, the solid one I quit to please someone else who merely was inserted to manipulated me Hindsight is 20/ 20. My life really derailed too. Let me work on getting those aspects. Do you want to see them with or w/o my then mate in the sauce, so to speak?
quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: Stone1, you're so very welcome. I'll try to dig the info out regarding that job loss. I was so proud of that one too, the solid one I quit to please someone else who merely was inserted to manipulated me Hindsight is 20/ 20. My life really derailed too. Let me work on getting those aspects. Do you want to see them with or w/o my then mate in the sauce, so to speak?
Ok .. this is my progression from then ~
MC was 0°58'58" Scorpio 6th was (twins, my boss) Gemini7th (the other - romantic) was CancerThere was an 8th house with Fanale 3478 at that time. Fanale prog it was square with the natal Saturn. Natal Saturn opposed the Prog MC.
(There might be a few natal/transits to add here too)
My natal vertex was square the prog Venus, sextile the prog Pluto. Finally it was square my prog MC. Prog Apophis opposed natal MC too.(Sure wish I knew a good astrologer then!)
In prog declination my 8th house was 20° parallel these in my natal:Aesculapia 'resurrection' 20° 7'Blarney 'persuasion' 20°15'Varros 'tomb' 20°21......
[b] because you are curious of the dynamics with him/I and the fated endings of my then chart. ..
I took our midpoint here and applied the 'then' transits'.
In our combined 7th house we hadVertex cnj MoiraAtropos trine NN8th Fanale sextile Klotho ,semisexile Moira, tight semisexile to vertex, square Sun & MoonAtropos was transit between 5/6th houses.Combined MC Sag, 6th Leo our professional sides of life burnt up like a bad plantation. He was ok despite it all.
Composite (blended) /transitVertex squared Lachesis, a sister of Fates see below too. Destinn/Klotho trine Destinn/Moira square Morata/Apophis square Klotho/Lachesis opposition Moira/Saturn trineMoira/ Lachesis squareAtropos/ Apophis squareFanale/ Uranus & Morata square
quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic: Stone1 I'll get the data with him in it in a bit. Ok .. this is my progression from then ~MC was 0°58'58" Scorpio 6th was (twins, my boss) Gemini7th (the other - romantic) was CancerThere was an 8th house with Fanale 3478 at that time. Fanale prog it was square with the natal Saturn. Natal Saturn opposed the Prog MC.(There might be a few natal/transits to add here too)My natal vertex was square the prog Venus, sextile the prog Pluto. Finally it was square my prog MC. Prog Apophis opposed natal MC too.(Sure wish I knew a good astrologer then!)In prog declination my 8th house was 20° parallel these in my natal:Aesculapia 'resurrection' 20° 7'Blarney 'persuasion' 20°15'Varros 'tomb' 20°21......[b] because you are curious of the dynamics with him/I and the fated endings of my then chart. ..I took our midpoint here and applied the 'then' transits'. In our combined 7th house we hadVertex cnj MoiraAtropos trine NN8th Fanale sextile Klotho ,semisexile Moira, tight semisexile to vertex, square Sun & MoonAtropos was transit between 5/6th houses.Combined MC Sag, 6th Leo our professional sides of life burnt up like a bad plantation. He was ok despite it all.Composite (blended) /transitVertex squared Lachesis, a sister of Fates see below too. Destinn/Klotho trine Destinn/Moira square Morata/Apophis square Klotho/Lachesis opposition Moira/Saturn trineMoira/ Lachesis squareAtropos/ Apophis squareFanale/ Uranus & Morata square
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